{"id":9235,"date":"2021-07-06T23:11:33","date_gmt":"2021-07-06T21:11:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/?p=9235"},"modified":"2025-08-04T14:58:21","modified_gmt":"2025-08-04T12:58:21","slug":"history-of-counselling-ii-modernity-and-its-clarification-in-conversation-with-haiko-wandhoff-inkovema-podcast-45","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/history-of-counselling-ii-modernity-and-its-clarification-in-conversation-with-haiko-wandhoff-inkovema-podcast-45\/","title":{"rendered":"History of counselling II &#8211; Modernity and its enlightenment. In conversation with Haiko Wandhoff (INKOVEMA Podcast #45)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container gradient-container-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA Podcast &#8222;Well through time&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#45 &#8211; History of Counselling II &#8211; Modernity and its Enlightenment<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h2>What we did when we thought we knew that only we could know. In conversation with Haiko Wandhoff<\/h2><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p>Well through time. The podcast about mediation, conflict coaching and organisational consulting.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/45-45-geschichte-der-beratung-ii-moderne-und-ihre-aufklarung-im-gesprach-mit-haiko-wandhoff\/embed?context=external\"><\/script><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><p><strong>Haiko Wandhoff,<\/strong> Professor of Older German Literature at Humboldt University in Berlin, works as a freelance coach, consultant and trainer. In 2016, he published his 10 historical forays through the history of counselling under the title <strong>\"What should I do?\"<\/strong>\u00a0- a comprehensive historical work on the history of counselling.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>PS: We apologise for the not intoxicating sound quality of this episode! It is evidence of a very hot summer day ;-)<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><h2>Contents:<\/h2>\n<h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"24\" data-lineheight=\"36px\"><strong>Information on the \"History of Counselling\" series<\/strong><\/h2>\n<h2 class=\"fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"24\" data-lineheight=\"36px\"><strong>Contents:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>\n<p class=\"p1\"><i>In\u00a0<strong>Part 1<\/strong>\u00a0we fly over the\u00a0<\/i><b><i>Antiquity and the Middle Ages<\/i><\/b><i>\u00a0and learn various ideas for counselling.<\/i><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"p1\"><i><strong>Part 2<\/strong>\u00a0leads into the\u00a0<\/i><b><i>Early modern times and modernity<\/i><\/b><i>especially in the era of the\u00a0<\/i><b><i>Clarification<\/i><\/b><i>which was also a turning point for the idea of counselling, the result of which was a deep\u00a0<strong>Counselling scepticism<\/strong>\u00a0brought with it.\u00a0 <\/i><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<li>\n<p class=\"p1\"><i><\/i><i><strong>Part 3<\/strong>\u00a0will once again be dealing with a fundamental change that is taking place in the\u00a0<\/i><b><i>Postmodernism<\/i><\/b><i>\u00a0and the concept of the\u00a0<strong>Counselling without advice<\/strong>\u00a0led.<\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\">\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2 class=\"p1 fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" data-fontsize=\"24\" data-lineheight=\"36px\"><strong>Central idea<\/strong><i><\/i><\/h2>\n<p class=\"p1\"><i>...of this series is to gain a deeper understanding of today's counselling phenomena: <\/i><\/p>\n<ul class=\"ul1\">\n<li class=\"li1\"><i>What happens to the people involved in a counselling process beforehand when one person wants advice and the other prepares to give it?<\/i><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><i>What influence does the advice have on the cognitive self-counselling processes - and what is the basic function of the advice?<\/i><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><i>How does counselling relate to other forms of influencing communication? Proselytising, teaching, mentoring and commanding and other forms of domination?<\/i><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><i>Why does everything that is offered in terms of counselling seem to have to be systemic?<\/i><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><i>What's with the suggestion that advice is also a slap in the face? <\/i><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><i>Why is our company called a consulting company?<\/i><\/li>\n<li class=\"li1\"><i>And how is it that you can hardly do any job with any seriousness today without immediately being courted with a counselling offer?<\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><strong>Contents of part 2<\/strong>:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Summary<\/li>\n<li>Mistresses as an advisory phenomenon at the princely court<\/li>\n<li>The New Era &#8211; The Great European Conversation (Roeck)<\/li>\n<li>Enlightenment and counselling scepticism (Montaigne and von Kleist)\n<ul>\n<li>Self-counselling imperative of modern times<\/li>\n<li>Devaluation of external counselling (asking questions = inability to self-reflect?)<\/li>\n<li>Devaluation of giving advice<\/li>\n<li>Emphasis on self-counselling, self-talk (talking to yourself)<\/li>\n<li>Modelling the inner voices<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8222;He who seeks advice does not listen enough to himself &#8211; and he who gives advice is presumptuous &#8220;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<ul>\n<li>The silent guidebooks: the triumph of guidebook literature<\/li>\n<li>Rehabilitation of external counselling in the 20th century<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Left:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><strong>Website for the book (publisher's page):<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/corlin-verlag.de\/geschichte-der-beratung\/#:~:text=%22Was%20soll%20ich%20tun%3F%22,Corlin%20Verlag%202016%20%7C%20Corlin%20Verlag&amp;text=Erh%C3%A4ltlich%20im%20Buchhandel%20oder%20bei%20Amazon%3A%20Jetzt%20bestellen!\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"What should I do?\", Corlin-Verlag, 2016.<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":9236,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[183,632,112,612,314,42],"tags":[633,146,636,639,635,638,634,637,16],"class_list":["post-9235","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-audio","category-beratungsgeschichte","category-coaching","category-coaching-und-beratung","category-inkovema-podcast","category-podcast","tag-aufklaerung","tag-autonomie","tag-beratungsskepsis","tag-fuerstenberater","tag-heinrich-von-kleist","tag-maetresse","tag-montaigne","tag-ratgeberliteratur","tag-zukunft"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9235","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9235"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9235\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/9236"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9235"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9235"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9235"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}