{"id":8964,"date":"2021-04-17T13:20:17","date_gmt":"2021-04-17T11:20:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/?p=8964"},"modified":"2025-08-04T14:40:38","modified_gmt":"2025-08-04T12:40:38","slug":"mediators-observe-in-conversation-with-justus-heck-inkovema-podcast-36","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/blog\/mediators-observe-in-conversation-with-justus-heck-inkovema-podcast-36\/","title":{"rendered":"Observing mediators. In conversation with Justus Heck (INKOVEMA podcast #36)"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"fusion-fullwidth fullwidth-box fusion-builder-row-1 fusion-flex-container gradient-container-1 nonhundred-percent-fullwidth non-hundred-percent-height-scrolling\" style=\"--awb-border-radius-top-left:0px;--awb-border-radius-top-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-right:0px;--awb-border-radius-bottom-left:0px;--awb-flex-wrap:wrap;\" ><div class=\"fusion-builder-row fusion-row fusion-flex-align-items-flex-start fusion-flex-content-wrap\" style=\"max-width:1144px;margin-left: calc(-4% \/ 2 );margin-right: calc(-4% \/ 2 );\"><div class=\"fusion-layout-column fusion_builder_column fusion-builder-column-0 fusion_builder_column_1_1 1_1 fusion-flex-column\" style=\"--awb-bg-size:cover;--awb-width-large:100%;--awb-margin-top-large:0px;--awb-spacing-right-large:1.92%;--awb-margin-bottom-large:20px;--awb-spacing-left-large:1.92%;--awb-width-medium:100%;--awb-spacing-right-medium:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-medium:1.92%;--awb-width-small:100%;--awb-spacing-right-small:1.92%;--awb-spacing-left-small:1.92%;\"><div class=\"fusion-column-wrapper fusion-column-has-shadow fusion-flex-justify-content-flex-start fusion-content-layout-column\"><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-1 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-four\"><h4 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:16;--minFontSize:16;line-height:1.5;\"><h4>INKOVEMA Podcast &#8222;Well through time&#8220;<\/h4><\/h4><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-2 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-one\"><h1 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:34;line-height:1.4;\"><h1>#36 &#8211; Observing mediators&#8230; &#8211; or is arguing with mediators more fun?<\/h1><\/h1><\/div><div class=\"fusion-title title fusion-title-3 sep-underline sep-solid fusion-title-text fusion-title-size-three\"><h3 class=\"fusion-title-heading title-heading-left fusion-responsive-typography-calculated\" style=\"margin:0;--fontSize:20;line-height:1.5;\"><h2>In conversation with Justus Heck<\/h2><\/h3><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-1\"><p>Well through time. The podcast about mediation, conflict coaching and organisational consulting.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><script class=\"podigee-podcast-player\" src=\"https:\/\/player.podigee-cdn.net\/podcast-player\/javascripts\/podigee-podcast-player.js\" data-configuration=\"https:\/\/inkovema.podigee.io\/36-neue-episode\/embed?context=external&token=V-dANFG05Y4RvW3e3Ugg3w\"><\/script><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-2\"><p><strong>Dr Justus Heck<\/strong>Sociologist and expert on mediation and third parties in conflict resolution. Research assistant at Bielefeld University since January 2020, dissertation on the role of third parties in conflict mediation, planned publication in 2021.<\/p>\n<\/div><div class=\"fusion-separator fusion-full-width-sep\" style=\"align-self: center;margin-left: auto;margin-right: auto;margin-top:20px;margin-bottom:20px;width:100%;\"><div class=\"fusion-separator-border sep-single\" style=\"--awb-height:20px;--awb-amount:20px;--awb-sep-color:#ffffff;border-color:#ffffff;border-top-width:1px;\"><\/div><\/div><div class=\"fusion-text fusion-text-3\"><h2>Contents:<\/h2>\n<p><strong>Third party in the dispute<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Development of conflict third parties; presence of third parties justifies conflict third parties<\/li>\n<li>Importance of imaginations by conflict parties about potential third parties<\/li>\n<li>Conflict argumentation = competition for third parties<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Competition for third place<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>With the judging third party: How can the judge be persuaded to make a particular legal decision?<\/li>\n<li>With the mediating third party: Even in front of mediators, you don't want to appear stupid or unseemly.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Escalations in mediation<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Interaction crisis or proof of trust<\/li>\n<li>Breakout behaviour from the third-guarded convention is only permitted to a limited extent.<\/li>\n<li>Meeting policing tasks<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em><strong>Interim conclusion: The &#8211; perceived as neutral &#8211; presence of a third party is decisive and all methods should be selected in such a way that they do not jeopardise this neutrality.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Services of sociological observation of mediation<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Systematisation offers for mediative phenomena<\/li>\n<li>Sharpening a realistic view of your own activities<\/li>\n<li>Mitigation of consequential problems that arise or would arise from self-idealisations<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong><em>&gt; Mediators of the world, take heart and a dictaphone!<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<h2>Left:<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Justus Heck, University of Bielefeld (<a href=\"https:\/\/ekvv.uni-bielefeld.de\/pers_publ\/publ\/PersonDetail.jsp?personId=12256337\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Link<\/a>)<\/li>\n<li>Justus Heck's publications (<a href=\"https:\/\/uni-bielefeld.academia.edu\/JustusHeck\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Link<\/a>)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":8966,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[314,446,42],"tags":[575,578,576,75,135,14,350,574,577,270],"class_list":["post-8964","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-inkovema-podcast","category-mediation","category-podcast","tag-dritte","tag-entschuldigung","tag-interaktionskrisen","tag-konflikt","tag-konfliktvermittlung","tag-mediation","tag-richter","tag-schlichter","tag-soziologie","tag-vermittlung"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8964","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8964"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8964\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/8966"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8964"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8964"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/dev.inkovema.de\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8964"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}